Dec 18 2003 and beyond THE CAPTURE OF SADDAM HUSSEIN, THE TRIAL, THE OTHER CRIMES, ------------------------------------------------------------ THE INJUSTICE AND ATTROCITIES OF THIS WAR ------------------------------------------- MAKE SURE YOU DELIVER THIS TO YOUR LEADERS... ASAP, LOTS OF LIFES CAN BE SAVED AND IMPROVED! WHERE ARE THE PROMISES FOR IRAQ WHICH CAME TRUE ? THERE ARE NONE. AND NOW SADDAM AND HIS PARTY MUST GO ON TRIAL. BUT IF THE WAR NEVER HAPPENED, HERE'S THE MORAL QUESTION, NOBODY WOULD HAVE ASKED FOR HIS TRIAL. BUSH, RUMSFELD, POWELL, BLAIR, DICK CHENEY ARE THE ONES WHO SHOULD BE PUT ON TRIAL. JUSTICE MUST BE SERVED TO ALL, NOT JUST TO ONE PERSON. TRIAL IN IRAQ IS A CERTAIN DEATH BY THE U.S. LEAD COALITION AND PUPPET GOVERNMENT, DONT FORGET HE IS THE OFFICIAL IRAQI PRESIDENT AND HE IS YOUR CONCERN NOT MINE, YOU MUST PROTECT HIM AND ALL OF HIS PEOPLE ARRESTED, TORTURED AND INTERROGATED BY THE U.S. AGGRESSORS. DONT LET BUSH HAVE IT HIS WAY, HELL NO, ALL THOSE PRISONERS MUST BE SET FREE, THE SOONER, THE BETTER. UNITED NATIONS SHOULD BE IN CHARGE. (DONT FORGET THE KILLING OF HIS TWO SONS AND HIS 14 YEAR OLD GRAND-SON MUSTAPHA (NOT TO MENTION MANY OTHER INNOCENT KIDS) ALSO DIED IN THAT GUN-FIGHT WITH 200 SOLDIERS OVER 6 HOURS... THAT KID NEVER HARMED ANYBODY, THEY MURDERED HIM) The capture of Saddam Hussein is only good if he goes on trial to the Hague, DONT FORGET HE IS THE OFFICIAL PRESIDENT AND HE NEVER HAD ANY WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. JUST BECAUSE HE KEPT FEW LABS SO WHAT, DID HE MAKE ANYTHING ? OF COURSE NOT. HE ALSO APOLOGIZED FOR THE KUWAIT ATTACK TO A CERTAIN LENGTH AND BEFORE THE WAR STARTED HE WANTED TO GIVE UP HIS SEAT TO HIS SON AND WAS WILLING TO ACCEPT MANY U.S. INSPECTORS TO COME AND INSPECT WITHOUT ANY RESERVATIONS. AS YOU CAN SEE THERE WERE MANY WAYS OUT. In Hague... there he can be treated right, not by those U.S. lead puppets in government in iraq where he will surely get the death penalty. All those people hate him. And dont forget much worse can happen than that, many people will die if he dies, trust me. There will be a big co-effect. Not to mention a graeter civil war. There is already a civil war in Iraq on a small case. The means dont justify the ends. If in 10 years Iraq ir a great nation, it's not because of U.S. invasion nothing will take away the pain and suffering. Who put the sanctions on them in the first place, U.S. demanded it from U.N. And U.N. was stupid enough to listen. The many years of sanctions killed so many people. It does not matter that much if he is cought or not, the fight in Iraq will go on, you see the order has been given and it will not be stopped even if he is in prison or dead, no WMD will ever be found, there was none. The war is not justified, the Hussein of 03 is not the same as in 91. He was not attacking anybody before this war. AMERICA IS NOT WELCOMED ON ANY FOREIGN LAND. AND ATTACKS WILL GO ON. AND MORE TERRORISTS WILL COME INTO THE GAME. It's a good thing he did not kill himself or shoot at the soldiers because this way he can accuse those who accused him and make his case stick out from the rest of them. Even if he did, he was in no position to shoot from that hole and it was not a rat hole, it was not that bad inside, besides it was protective and stable hole. What other place to go and hide ? He may not be a criminal, but he had to be firm, many people liked him and Sunnis will always be behind him. Of course after 23 years of rule even if you are good to some people you just become boring, especially when your picture is on every corner. Back then they had to say they love him, now they have to say they hate him because if they dont they will now be considered as traitors, the stage has shifted, vice-versa. HAGUE... YOU ARE ACCUSING OTHER LEADERS, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO A REAL CASE, WHERE THE HELL ARE YOU ? WHAT ABOUT CAMBODIA AND THE TRIAL OF THOSE KILLERS, BROTHER NUMBER #2 IS STILL WALKING AROUND IN FREEDOM, A KILLER OF FIRST CALIBER, FIRST CLASS. WHAT ABOUT WAR IN KOSOVO,(CLINTON IS ALSO A WAR CRIMINAL, OVER 2000 CIVILIANS KILLED AND MANY NONE-MILITARY PLACES DESTROYED). HERE'S A PARODY... MILOSEVIC WAS KILLING THE TERRORISTS IN KOSOVO AND HE DID NOT KILL ENOUGH OF THEM, NOW THAT BUSH IS DOING OR TRYING TO DO THE SAME, NOT A WORD HAS BEEN MENTIONED, U CALL THAT JUSTICE ? SHAME ON YOU. YOU ARE AFRAID TO LOSE YOUR POSITIONS AND PLACES IN YOUR LOUSY POLITICS THAT WILL GO AWAY SOME DAY, SURELY. WHAT GOES AROUND, COMES AROUND. THE WAR IS LOST, PERIOD. FROM THE MOMENT THEY DID NOT FIND WEAPONS OF MESS DESTRUCTION, THE WAR WAS LOST! WHAT ABOUT OTHER CRIMES AND CRIMINAL LEADERS AROUND THE WORLD, THERE ARE MANY WORSE PEOPLE THAN HUSSEIN WAS, MUCH WORSE, WHAT BUT ABOUT SUDAN AND SAUDI ARABIA, THOSE PEOPLE DID NOT LET THEIR OWN PEOPLE PROFESS THEIR OWN FAITH... HOPEFULLY THEY WILL SEE THE LIGHT IF YOU LET FREEDOM REIGN, YOUR COUNTRY WILL BLOSSOM, YOUR PEOPLE WILL BE HAPPIER, YOU WILL NOT BE HATED AND YOUR GOD WILL BE THERE FOR YOU. SAUDI ARABIA, NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO, UNITED STATES HAS TO KEEP QUIET ABOUT IT BECAUSE OF THE OIL, LOOK HOW MANY WARS ARE RAGING AROUND THE WORLD, HOW COME U.S. DOES NOT LIBERATE THOSE COUNTRIES, THAT'S SIMPLE, THEY HAVE NO INTEREST IN THEM, AND THUS THEY THEY DON'T CARE HOW MANY PEOPLE DIE, AS LONG AS THEIR FAT ASSES ARE SAVE AND RICH. SO MANY PEOPLE IN U.S. GOVERNMENT DONT UNDERSTAND ANYTHING ABOUT THE FOREIGN POLICY AND MAKE TRAGIC MISTAKES, NO RELIABLE INFORMATION IS PASSED FROM ONE ADMINISTRATION TO ANOTHER. THEY DONT UNDERSTAND THE CUSTOMS, TRADITIONS AND MENTALITY OF THOSE PEOPLE. THOSE COUNTRIES DEAL WITH THEIR OWN, THEIR OWN WAY, THEY DONT GIVE THEIR CRIMINALS AWAY, THEY DONT GIVE IN. THEY DEAL WITH THEM ON THEIR OWN TERMS. WHY ATTACK A COUNTRY THAT ENJOYED FREEDOM FOR A LITTLE WHILE, JUST SO THEY CAN SUFFER ALL OVER AGAIN, THAT IS NOT LIBERATION. WHY PULL OUT A HEALTHY ROOT ? HUSSEIN SHOULD FILE SERIOUS LAWSUITS AND ACCUSES THOSE WHO ACCUSE HIM. AND WHEN HE GETS TO HAGUE, LET HIM KNOW EVERYTHING THERE IS TO KNOW. HE WILL SPEAK OUT. This was an Oil-Israeli reason for war (why not send the troops to Paslestine and Israel to bring to an end the horrible wars there, the root of all problems in the Arabic world with the Jews) and of course Bush's idiotic thinking and his hate of the man, his CIA morons who mishandled intelligence, who had no clue what they were doing gave him lots of incorrect info. Who is reponsible for slipping such information ? How is it possible that they never looked at other options ? As former head of the Iraq's armed forces, Saddam Hussein is a prisoner of war and must be treated accordingly. This includes being given prompt access to delegates of the International Committee of the Red Cross. The gravity and scale of the violations of which Saddam Hussein has been accused underscore the paramount importance that he be brought to justice in a manner that is fair and transparent. What about the hell so many Iraqis had to go thru, it's much worse than any punishment they had to go thru during Saddam's regime. DONT JUDGE SO YOU DONT GET JUDGED SOME DAY. YOU ARE NOT THE ALMIGHTY JUDGE. JUDGE PRESIDENT BUSH FOR HIS CRIMES THAT KILLED SO MANY INNOCENT IRAQIS AND WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE HAPPENED WHEN THEY WERE ATTACKED BY "MISTAKE" OR NOT, INNOCENT CHILDREN KILLED, DECAPITATED AND LEFT WITH PSYCHOLOGICAL MARKS FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES. THE REASON FOR WAR THAT WAS NEVER MEANT TO HAPPEN IT THE FIRST PLACE, THE LIES ABOUT WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION, ETC, ETC, ETC... BUSH AND BLAIR MUST BE PUT ON TRIAL. NOT TO MENTION THE INTEROGATIONS BY U.S. FORCES, TENS OF THUSANDS OF ARRESTS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE, DESTRUCTION OF THEIR PROPERTIES, ETC, ETC, ETC... SO MANY MORE INVALIDS UNTIL THE DAY THEY DIE... HOW CAN YOU CALL THIS IRAQI FREEDOM ? THIS IS NOT IRAQI FREEDOM, THIS IS IRAQI TORTURE, THEY NEVER ASKED FOR THIS "LIBERATION" LET THAT BE KNOWN, BUSH, CHENEY AND OTHERS ARE USING THAT CRAP JUST TO JUSTIFY HIS CRIME AND TO MAKE IT IT LOOK CONVINCING, LOOK AT THE WAY HE ACTS AND SPEAKS, LIKE A SAINT, BUT HE IS A DEVIL, PERIOD. A FIRST CLASS LIER. HE IS THE WAR CRIMINAL. AND TONY BLAIR AS WELL! VOICES OF THESE PEOPLE MUST BE HEARD: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1514&e=1&u=/afp/20031215/wl_mideast_afp/iraq_saddam_demos_031215195332 The Chancellor of Germany and or other nations had no right to be so happy and call Bush in person and congratulate him for Saddam's capute. What for, they should take back what they said, all of it. This makes no sense, if you are against the war, then you support it by praising this tyrant, then what's the point you are trying to make ? Here's what he said... "Saddam Hussein captured" The Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein has been captured. US troops captured him in a walled hole in the ground near the town of Ad Dawr, 15 kilometres south of his home city of Tikrit, on Saturday. Chancellor Schröder congratulated US President George W. Bush on this success. Chancellor Schroder sent the following letter to US President Bush on the capture of Saddam Hussein: Dear Mr President It was with great joy that I learnt the news of Saddam Hussein's capture. I would like to congratulate you on this successful mission. Saddam Hussein brought indescribable suffering to his people and the whole region. (This guy is nuts...And of course Bush only brought happiness, joy, lots of jobs, freedom, security and happy faces) I hope that his capture will serve to support the efforts of the international community in the reconstruction and stabilisation of Iraq. Yours sincerely Gerhard Schroder Chancellor of the Federal Republic of Germany" AGAIN, PEOPLE JUDGE OTHERS WITHOUT HAVING THEM PROOVEN GUILTY FIRST, BUT NO MATTER, IF JUSTICE IN THIS WORLD DOES NOT COME BY A TRIAL OR MURDER, IT WILL COME ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. I MEAN NOBODY WILL BE ABLE TO GET OUT OF LIFE TRIAL, MANEUVER IT WITH CAREFULLY COREOGRAPHED/SCRIPTED SPEECHES AND SO ON AND SO ON... IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. NOW, UNITED NATIONS, ARAB LEAGUES AND WHOEVER MUST MAKE SURE THIS GUY TRAVELS TO HAGUE FOR TRIALS AND GETS HIS LAWYERS AND HE ACCUSES GEORGE BUSH AND OTHERS OF CRIME AGAINST HIS PEOPLE, SO THEY ARE ALSO PUT ON TRIAL, BUT SADDAM CAN NOT STAY IN U.S. HANDS, AS THE PRESIDENT, HE MUST BE UNDER INTERNATION CONTROL. THE SUNNI PEOPLE HAVE NO FREEDOM NOW, THAT'S 30% OF THE POPULATION, WHATEVER BUSH TRIED TO DO, HE DID NOT DO IT THE PROPLER WAY, BUT NAZI LIKE WAY, HE AND THE COALTION OF IDIOTS ARE WORSE THEN SADDAM AND HIS WAYS. PERIOD. DONT FORGET THIS OR DONT WASTE TIME ON ANYTHING ELSE THAT IS NOT OF IMPORTANCE, YOU MUST MAKE A STRONG CASE AGAINST BUSH. THERE ARE AT LEAST 30 000 CIVILIANS WHO DIED IN THIS WAR, WHO WILL PAY BACK FOR ALL THOSE LIFES? THEY DONT MENTION THAT, THEY KEEP ON SAYING, IRAQ IS FREE NOW, WELL TELL THAT TO THOSE DEAD. NOT EVERY SINGLE SOLUTION HAS BEEN EXHAUSTED OR DEPLETED TO AVOID THIS WAR. THE TIME IS TO DECLARE WAR ON TRUE INJUSTICE AND LIES. This story can be released to the general public. More interesting stuff: Rev. Jesse Jackson on Iraq war http://www.rainbowpush.org/FMPro?-db=rpodata.fp5&-format=rainbowpush%2fdata% For more on war, all in one: www.geocities.com/theworldcourt and www.geocities.com/theworldcourt/Iraqsite.txt -------- In new Iraq: "Freedom Marches On" Cricket is allowed but chess is "absolutely forbidden" Women may not shake heads with men. Music is permitted but only if it is not for pleasure and enjoyment. Men can not praying when wearing earrings or improper outwear." Saddam, facing death penalty is accused of mass murder, torturse, false imprisonment (well, at least keeping the peace), use of chemical weapons. He may be guilty on many counts, however, it now seems are guilty as well, those who overthrew him. Using white phosphorous "to illuminate the battlefield," which killed and ate flesh of many civilians, napalm fire-bombs and other chemical agents are not classified as "wmd"! http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4315341.stm Cambidian Trials, why not Priority over Iraq http://headlines.virgin.net/story/HHH/A10809291132107733A0 U.S. USED CHECMICAL WEAPONS AGAINST IRAQI CIVILIANS http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1642575,00.html White Phosphorous & more Bush Sr. had a hand in arming Saddam, too. They wanted Iraq to beat up on Iran, who had held our people hostage. So they helped arm the bully. Then Bush Sr. took usa to war against him when he invaded Kuwait, even though the Bush administration knew ahead of time that Iraq was going to invade and had not given Saddam any indication that they were against his invasion. But by removing Saddam, Iran has no more buffer zone to rule that part of the world and going to war against Iran will be bigger tragedy than Iraq. I think ulitmate fighting will be around for awhile, but I don't see it lasting for a hundred years or anything like that. Roller Derby was very popular in the 1960s-1970s but where is it now ? Who knows.